The most frustrating aspect of living in Hawai’i is dealing with the incompetent corporate executives, government bureaucrats and elected political officials. Hawai’i is the only state in the nation that was once governed by kings, queens and monarchy based on bloodline. Even today, bloodline, family connections and friends remain more important than merit in job selection.
UPDATE 9.2.22: HECO announced that Oahu customers’ electric bills, affected by yesterday’s shutdown of the AES coal-fired power plant, will see their costs go up by 4%, or $9 a month, instead of 7%, or $15 a month, as initially forecast. Rates didn’t need to increase. I’ve written numerous times to HECO CEO Shelee Kimura begging not to increase rates. Don’t close the AES plant.
Energy costs “multiply” through our economy. Your doctor’s office faces an increase, which the office passes on to you. Grocery stores face the same increase, and passes costs to you. HECO is disingenuous to claim your increase in costs will be $9 per month.
UPDATE 8.24.22: China just confirmed the incompetence of HECO. To help their nation, Chinese officials are using MORE coal due to drought conditions. HECO is ending coal use in the most challenging inflationary period in 40 years, and increasing costs to struggling families.
In 1776, Americans expressed deep dissatisfaction being ruled by despots. In the Sandwich islands in 1780 however, a petty, greedy and violent Polynesian named Kamehameha was just getting started. Many good things; many failures. Just like government today. None of us are perfect.
For 30 years, he subjected the kind, compassionate, aloha-seeking island Polynesians to war, murder, violence and oppression to create his kingdom. He conquered all islands, except Kaua’i. Kaumuali’i subjugated his kingdom solely to prevent the slaughter of Polynesians on the Garden island. Queen Lili’uokalani echoed a similar frustration generations later.
Countless leaders and strong warriors were massacred by forces of Kamehameha using British long guns and canons, pushed off cliffs, or drowned in Pacific waters. Resources were diverted to his war machine, not the needs of the peasant population. Citizens echo similar frustrations today.
For decades Kamehameha and his administrators practiced human sacrifice, killed those who accidentally crossed shadows of high officials, required subjects crawl on their belly before Ali’i Nui, and demanded common Polynesians provide labor and services to enrich the royal family.
World famous and beautiful Pearl Harbor, called Wai Momi by Kanaka Maoli, who named the Sandwich islands Hawai’i, was known for the abundance of pearl-enriched oysters. Unfortunately, Kamehameha required Polynesian families on O’ahu extract all sandalwood supplies for export to China and world markets.
Depletion of sandalwood created an environmental disaster for Pearl. Absence of foliage triggered mud slides and rich, red-dirt volcanic soil saturated the clear waters and overwhelmed oyster beds in this pristine area. Oyster colonies collapsed. The waters and region have never been the same.
Since the early 1800s, incompetent management by the monarchy, business and plantation owners destroyed the beauty and environment in Paradise. Our goal is to create a sustainable balance between humans and nature.
Today, for example, the Navy, O’ahu Waterkeeper and scientists at the University of Hawai’i are working to revive oyster populations in the harbor to help clean up the waterway. The environmental damage has been criminal.
Candidates for Governor Promise “More Affordable” Hawai’i
Anyone paying attention to the candidates running for governor and various political offices hear their pledges for a more affordable Hawai’i. They talk a lot of story, but are short on realistic plans.
More importantly, candidates like Josh Green and Kai Kahele, along with current senators and representatives, just increased our energy taxes by 7%.
Marcel Honore, reporting in Civil Beat, says Oahu households can expect to see monthly electricity bills increase by about 7% when Hawaiian Electric Company shuts down the state’s last remaining coal-fired power plant on September 1st and replaces the facility with another fossil fuel source: petroleum.
Civil Beat general manager Patti Epler doesn’t hire investigative journalists — only basic reporters. The exceptional Civil Beat staff are not allowed to question why or criticize the current monarchy.
The 30th Legislature for the state of Hawai’i passed Senate Bill No. 2629, Act 023 in 2020, which prohibits the use of coal in the islands beyond 2022. Legislators correctly pointed out that coal is currently the “largest source of carbon dioxide emissions in the world,” and coal-fired power plants responsible for 70% of the nation’s mercury emissions.
However, on the backs of local O’ahu families, governor David Ige and his feckless court claim they are going to clean up the planet, “Raise energy taxes on the peasants! Let them eat pineapple cake!”
For residents addicted to 30-character Twitter tweets or 15-second TikTok videos, such sophomoric solutions to our climate challenges might make sense. Remember, these are the same social planners who want to put some 30 MILLION solar panels covering over 10,000 football fields of green spaces on our islands. Quelle horreur!!!
Those with a more realistic understanding of Hawaii’s standing not only in the U.S. but world recognize these officials and their plans are … well, how should we say … idiotic !
Hawai’i Compared to China
Examining Hawaii’s Energy Facts & Figures published by the Hawai’i State Energy Office for 2020, most recent figures on coal usage for electric energy generation (2016) is 841,052 total tons.
Researchers point out most people are unaware that the amount of fuel imported into Hawai’i exceeds the amount of any other product imported into the state. The relatively large quantities, expense, and emissions from imported fuels are heavy burdens on local families and the economy.
Incompetent Hawaiian Electric Company and wealthy short-sighted elected officials nevertheless decided it makes economic and environmental sense to end coal use and rely on more petroleum-generated energy production, although only 0.3% of electricity in the U.S. is generated using petroleum.
Distribution of U.S. Energy Production
- Natural gas (38%);
- Coal (23.2%);
- Nuclear (19.5%);
- Wind (7.2%);
- Hydroelectric (6.6%);
- Solar (2.5%);
- Biomass (1.4%); and
- Geothermal (0.4%)
Distribution of Hawai’i Energy Production
- Fossil 75.2%
- Petroleum 63.2%
- Coal 12%
- Renewable 20.3%
- Solar 12.7%
- Wind 4.9%
- Biomass 2.7%
- Hydro 0.9%
- Other 3.7%
Unfortunately for families, oil costs about $0.30 per kilowatt hour compared to $0.06 for coal and $0.09 to $0.13 for solar, according to Hawaiian Electric.
Natural gas (LNG) is cheaper than coal, which it has rapidly replaced, and produces 35% of U.S. electricity, according to the Energy Information Administration.
Only lolos use petroleum. Doesn’t matter to executives at Hawaiian Electric; not a big deal to millionaire Hawai’i legislators and politicians. The aloha solution until solar & wind sources are available is LNG; not oil.
Critically, a spike in energy prices by 7% will multiply through the economy raising prices for most other products — a further disaster for struggling middle class peasants who already work 2-3 jobs. Who’s making Hawai’i affordable?
Hawai’i residents are being handed a bill to clean up the global environment, while China increases reliance on coal. Recent estimates show the communist nation consumed about 4,319,921,826 tons of as of 2016.
China ranks first in the world for coal consumption, accounting for about 379.1% of the remaining world’s total consumption of 1,139,471,430 tons. India consumes 966,288,693 tons per year (2016) and ranks second for global consumption, accounting for about 84.8% of the world’s total use outside China.
If we ignore India for a moment and focus solely on China’s consumption, the Chinese use 5,136 times more coal each year than do residents of Hawai’i.
Let me express this statistic another way. If the hard-working, kind and compassionate people in Hawai’i were to continue using coal at the levels we currently do at this time, it will take 5,136 YEARS to use as much coal as China does in ONE YEAR.
The amount of coal inhabitants in the islands use is relatively only a drop of water in the Pacific Ocean compared to China. If we now compare to India similarly, it will take Hawai’i residents 1,149 years to use the coal India consumes in one year.
Governor Dave Ige, Lt Governor Josh Green, Kai Kahele and the legislature believe raising YOUR costs in a time of historically explosive inflation makes sense, as these corny and goofball officials want to position “Hawai’i as a global leader on climate solutions.”
Their plan is to reduce the state’s dependence on imported fuels. Didn’t. HECO simply shifted from less-expensive imported coal to imports of more expensive dirty diesel.
They claimed they want to foster innovation. Didn’t. HECO increased use of petroleum. They claim they want to increase clean energy job growth. Didn’t. No new jobs were created. And they claim they want to “greatly reduce carbon emissions.” Didn’t.
The only change that occurred was an increase in YOUR family costs to live in the Aloha state. Most importantly, an increase in energy costs ripples through the economy. Families will pay more for their direct energy use to power AC, lights, TV, computers and other needs.
At the same time, grocery stores, restaurants, small and large businesses … will all face higher energy costs, and will pass these costs to us — local families. The baseline 7% increase will multiply and lead to 10%-15% overall costs to a household at a time when inflation is ravaging the nation and our state.
Folks … it simply can’t get any more ridiculous than this real life example. Such behavior is grossly negligent and incompetent. Our corporate executives and government officials are so wealthy and financially fat that they have no idea how ordinary middle class families suffer and struggle in the islands.
Out-of-touch, out-of-their-minds, out-of-ideas and should be out-of-office!
It’s an election year. Politicians are making empty promises of a more affordable Hawai’i. They talk … and talk … and talk. However, their walk shows they do not understand basic economics nor do they care about global climate change.
China and India are the Prolific Problem Polluters. Until we convince these two nations to modify their behavior, there is no pono justification to ask Hawai’i residents to shoulder this additional financial burden.
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22 thoughts on “Incompetent Hawaiian Electric and Hawaii Politicians Just Increased Energy Taxes by 7%”
your account of our history lacks all of the pertinent facts, you may want to do a better job of researching our ali’i nui, your story is insulting to us who are kanaka.
HECO did not shutdown AES, the PUC & politicians did that, the PUC prevented HECO from using LNG in Hawai’i nei, your article has some facts, but your writing style is very disingenuous.
I’m aware PUC denied the use of LNG. Wasn’t a wise decision. Believe PUC and politicians mandated no more coal end of 2022, right? However, HECO moved more quickly and likely could have applied for a waiver due to conditions.
If you have concerns about anything related to the Kanaka, please point those out. Happy to discuss or correct. Mahalo for the discussion!
there is nothing for me to point out to you concerning our history, do your research and then you can speak from a place of knowledge and truth.
As for HECO, I am a former new generation project developer for HECO and I know first hand the inner workings of HECO something others do not know or understand
If you have nothing to point out, then nothing is incorrect. Speak up. I’ve done my research. Facts are accurate. Thank you for your work at HECO. In my experience, the staff at HECO are awesome. Professionally, I find senior management and executive board to be out-of-touch with ordinary families — kind of like royalty!
Your comparison of HECO sr mgt and bod to our alii is completely false and wrong. HECO sr mgt & bod are just like the founders of HECO, haole descendants of missionaries who were part of the overthrow of the Hawaiian kingdom. Our alii would never be like HECO sr mgt & bod
As for your research, how much time have you spent at bishop museum? Most likely not enough
Have you read
Ruling chiefs of Hawaii
Kamehameha and his warrior kekuhaupio
The warrior king
When you do then maybe you will have done your research
HECO was founded in 1891 by William Hall. In 1887, Hall was quartermaster for the Honolulu Rifles. He was also the spokesman who demanded King Kalakaua sign a new constitution, which we call the Bayonet Constitution. This effectively turned the monarchy into a ceremonial role.
Why did The People revolt against the monarchy? Kings and queens didn’t work; didn’t have gold or silver, as we see in the British monarchy at the time. They were takers; not makers. The monarchy invited foreigners to the islands — to operate business to make money for the monarchy. The monarchy taxed efforts of those who worked; and demanded people work for the monarchy. All the monarchy had was land. They leased and sold land to enrich the monarchy. Outsiders didn’t steal the Kanaka land; kings gave it away, traded or sold the land. The Great Mahele was a Kanaka policy.
Beginning in 1780, Kamehameha I prosecuted 30 years of war. King Kalani’opu’u designated his son to be the next king. Kamehameha refused this directive. Went to war. Defied the king. Rather than UNITE the islands, as the world witnessed beginning in 1776 in young USA, he fought against the Polynesian people. He killed great warriors and other leaders. During this time, outsiders gained a bigger foothold.
Kamehameha divided, killed, and partnered with outsiders to acquire British long guns, cannons and military strategy. Kamehameha brought foreigners to the islands. Other chiefs in return partnered with foreigners as well. Kanaka today claim Kamehameha united. False narrative. Unity does not come at the point of a gun.
In hindsight, Kamehameha should have rallied island Polynesians to reject all foreigners. Unite to keep them out. You use the term “haole” today as a racist slur. Historically, haole meant stranger.
When Captain Cook arrived in 1778, it was a Clash of Civilization. Kanaka had no written language. They were 1,000 years behind technologically. Does not suggest inferior. Kanaka were advanced in many ways; not in technology. Missionaries had to write a language. Missionaries had to teach Kanaka to be “clean” in a world of terrible disease. Missionaries had to teach Kanaka about sexual behavior and STDs. Kanaka had no defense.
And, Kanaka committed the first recorded crime — against Captain Cook. Stole a long boat. This theft led to a fight and Cook was killed. Who steals another man’s boat? One would get hung in the old west for stealing a horse. Kanaka today are proud Cook was killed. The British were not like Columbus in 1492. Explorers had learned to be more respectful of indigenous culture. Kanaka stole from the British and ended up killing Cook. Proud history, right?
History of Kamehameha is dark, violent and characterized by greed. Never found an answer to this question. Maybe you will. In N America, for example, seasons force people to grow and store crops to survive winter. Food was scarce. In Europe, land was scarce. Humans fought due to scarcity. The islands are different. There is no scarcity. Each island was bountiful. Plenty fresh water, land to grow crops, and fish in the sea. You reference native planters. Kanaka were awesome! Highly advanced.
Why fight then? Why would a chief put his best Kanaka warriors in tiny boats, paddle 90 miles through treacherous ocean, to kill Polynesians on another island? This behavior was ego-driven … these males were mentally insane! All apparently wanted to be the Big Kahuna. “Look at me in my bold feathers and beautiful robes. Do not touch the ground where I have walked. My warriors paddled to Maui and threw your warriors off a cliff. You now live in MY kingdom. Bring me sandalwood.”
Total insanity!!! Did you ever read about Chief Crazy Horse of the Lakota nation? His people faced a military force far greater technologically. He was wise, cunning, valiant and unified many nations under one command against outsiders. They marched and fought through brutal winter conditions to save their people and culture. They suffered and endured. Their history is heroic.
Kamehameha instead partnered with outsiders, traded for advanced weapons, and turned these on Polynesian people — so HE could rule! Greed, ego, self-glorification … “I want to be king!”
The Great King should have fought outsiders — not the Polynesian People! And, Kalakaua didn’t fight in 1887. He signed the constitution. He then left the islands on a world tour to recruit labor to work for plantation and business owners, and to serve the monarchy. His behavior was not resistance. He was complicit in the new order.
Queen Lili’uokalani didn’t accept this arrangement. Wanted return to power. However, the business community did all the work and did not want kings and queen telling them how to run their operations. Queen threatened revolution. They charged her with treason. We know this history.
Had the queen accepted the role of a ceremonial monarch, as we observe in England today, Kanaka would have flourished. Queen Elizabeth is highly respected. Has much power, influence and wealth. She accepts that the legislature (Parliament) governs the nation. Queen Lili, like Kamehameha, was greedy. She wanted ALL the power. But she didn’t have a strong army; couldn’t secure these islands; couldn’t feed the Polynesian people or keep them safe or provide for their security or pay for her palace or foreign education for privileged keiki of the monarchs.
The #1 role of any government is to DEFEND the nation. Queen Lili could not do this. The #2 role is to keep the people safe. In 1700, there were an estimated 600,000 Kanaka. By 1900, only 25,000-40,000 remained. Not killed by weapons of war — but germs and disease. The monarchy failed the Polynesian people. Without the “haole” missionaries, the Kanaka would have gone extinct due to disease.
Nothing today prevents the Kanaka from being a great world people. Your traditions, culture, language and customs are alive — and can flourish. However, like HECO, senior management of Kanaka is corrupt or incompetent. HECO generates electricity using dirty diesel — 100 year-old technology. They live in the past. Kanaka live in the past — BLAMING outsiders. Outsiders saved the Kanaka!
USA prevented Russia, Japan or China from conquering the Kanaka. Japanese would love to have these islands. They turned Korean women into sex slaves, committed genocide across the Pacific, and murdered over 20M-25M Chinese. They had no use for the Kanaka!
Yet you BLAME; further hatred for the USA and White people. The Kingdom of Hawai’i was not overthrown. The monarchy was offered a ceremonial role; it was a fair offer and partnership. They turned down the offer due to greed and ego.
All of your information you state as facts are only half truths, your research should be more than just google, you never answered my question about spending time doing real research on na kanaka history.
Do you know who Charles Kenn is? I doubt you do; he was the royal court secretary and his writing speaks truths that you have no knowledge of.
The kingdom was taken because of na haole americans that wanted the US to take Hawai’i nei as a military outpost, thanks to Schofield. The term haole is not and has never been a racial slur except for na haole that make it so. Our term haole means “you are not from here” and here is our place, Hawai’i nei.
The kanaka did not revolt against the ali’i, it was the na haole with the use of the US military that took our ali’i and put her in prison. The kanaka sustained themselves for generations without the need for taxation. The ali’i had much more than just land, then to explain this to you, who is not from here and could never fully understand how our people lived and thrived without contact from the outside. Provides you with a narrow point of view.
The mahele was a na haole policy that ensured that na haole could take the maximum amount of aina. Your understanding of our history is incomplete and slanted towards you haole perspective. If you really took the time to do proper research you may come to understand the complete history of our place.
Research Cook’s arrival, when did he arrive? How were his men acting? Who created the crime against who first? What did Cook and his people give to the kanaka? The death of Cook, yes, we celebrate his death because what he did, he deserved to die for that. And yes, we are proud that Cook took his last breath in our aina.
You state that our ali’i nui was ego-driven, your assessment lacks real research, your use of the term “Big Kahuna” demonstrated your ignorance of the facts and the way of life that stood the test of time for our ancestors. No warriors were thrown off a cliff in any battles on Maui, you should get your facts checked.
You dare to compare our history with that of the native American? That is so haole of you. You dare to say that we should have done things the way you think we should, who are you to judge? How many generations has your ohana lived in this place? You lack the ability to truly do the proper amount of research to get ALL of the facts. You know nothing of our Queen and what she did for her people, why don’t you find a copy of “Hawai’i’s Story” written by our queen then maybe you will begin to understand.
You want to get the facts read “The Polynesian Family System in Ka’u, Hawai’i” by Handy & Pukui. Your view of na kanaka and what they should have done is so haole. Our people are nothing like you describe, how we are today, you have no real clue. HECO sr mgt & its bod, are all just like the na haole of before. Outsiders never saved na kanaka.
I don’t blame na haole or the US. The kingdom was overthrown by the US, this is recorded history. A ceremonial role? Once again that is so haole of you. That is not fair and does not equal a partnership, once again that is so haole of you.
Comparing our ali’i to HECO, is completely maika’i’ole, pono’ole, & mana’ole.
Thank you for the additional hatred, anger and half-truths. You continue with your racist slur, “haole.” This term is like calling a Black person “NI**ER!” You wrote, “The kingdom was overthrown by the US, this is recorded history.”
USA did not overthrow the Kingdom of Hawai’i. You spoke falsely. You lied. A coup occurred in 1887, as I described correctly. Initiated not by USA, but Honolulu Rifles. These people LIVED in Hawai’i at the invitation of monarchs. They worked in Hawai’i. They had families here — some married Kanaka. They generated income for the monarchy. They were part of the legislature and political system. This struggle was an internal political fight.
And, in 1893, these same people kicked Queen Lili from the throne. Agree USS Boston was anchored in Pearl Harbor. Nothing nefarious. The Reciprocity Treaty of 1875 gave the USA exclusive rights to Pearl.
And, 120 Marines were summoned to keep the peace, to protect American and foreign interests, as the queen’s actions suggested violent revolution. No USA officials FIRED a shot. Nevertheless, we agree there were about 500 Honolulu Rifles and about 120 US Marines. The queen could not defend her nation — against less than 700 opponents. How would the Kanaka stand against Russia, Japan, China or any other foreign power?
Sanford Dole and supporters created a Provisional Government in 1893, which was immediately recognized by ALL the foreign powers that had recognized the Kingdom of Hawai’i. In 1894, Dole was elected as the first and only president of the Republic of Hawai’i. The USA “ended” the Republic in 1898, not the Kingdom of Hawai’i.
Queen said, “I don’t want to shed blood.” Not what Kamehameha said. He easily and greedy shed the blood of Polynesian People. Blood was on the hands of Kanaka. And you champion the murder of Cook, “The death of Cook, yes, we celebrate his death because what he did.”
Cook only attempted to get HIS boat returned that had been stolen by Kanaka. You defend Kanaka crime and thievery. Cook did nothing mean or evil to the Kanaka — until they stole his boat. Criminals!!!
Look at another False Blame, as you wrote, “The mahele was a na haole policy that ensured that na haole could take the maximum amount of aina.” The Great Mahele was a Hawaiian land redistribution proposed by King Kamehameha III around 1848.
Kamehameha III was king. Signed the document. Yet you BLAME outsiders … you always BLAME outsiders. Dude, King Kamehameha III made the decision. Decisions have consequences. King Kalakaua in 1887 made the decision. He signed the constitution. Your kings are NOT very good kings! Kind of like the “kings and queens” of HECO. Posers!
Let me share with you what is American. When the 101st Airborne Division defending Bastogne was surrounded in WWII during the Battle of the Bulge, Germans demanded he surrender. While Kamehameha III, Kalakaua or Lili would have signed the surrender, American General McAuliffe responded famously with just one word, “NUTS!”
You’re angry today because your history has no HEROES. Your ancestors gave up! They surrendered.
You also angrily wrote, “You dare to compare our history with that of the native American? That is so haole of you.” There is nothing to compare. Native Americans fought brilliantly and valiantly for their land and culture. Kanaka did not. Apparently Kamehameha I killed all the courageous warriors and leaders. Those left we too timid and cowardly to fight. Only Robert Wilcox and a small handful of supporters resisted — and Wilcox was half-American, who had trained in Italy.
At the 1790 Battle of Kepaniwai on Maui, King Kamehameha’s forces killed so many Polynesians that dead bodies blocked the Iao stream and waters ran red with blood. So proud you must be! Didn’t kill outsiders — killed Kanaka!!!
Bitter fighting! And on the third day, Kamehameha’s army was helped by two cannons (named “Lopaka” and “Kalola”) operated by John Young and Isaac Davis, two of Kamehameha’s foreign advisors. Partnering with the British, using weapons of mass destruction from outsiders, Kamehameha MURDERED Polynesians — for what?
Just to be the Big Kahuna!!! Killed Polynesian People … Kamehameha was a warlord — a sick M*THERF*CKER who killed his own people. You bow to this evil man’s statue today. Have a holiday in his name. That’s like Germany praising Hitler!
You should wish Kanaka history was similar to that of the Indigenous People of North America. What heroic, strong, compassionate and honorable people. They fought because they had to fight. Kanaka fought due to ego. There was then, and today, NO JUSTIFICATION for Kamehameha’s murder of the Polynesian People. Your ancestors had paradise. Due to their incompetence, they lost control of government.
everything you write is spoken like the true haole that you are, haole does not equal nigger or jap, which is a haole made up term, you have no understanding of us and our heritage, to be expected since you are not from here and know nothing of us or our culture other than what you read, you are no different than the na haole from before and the ones at HECO that are sr mgt & bod. You fail in properly doing your research, auwe, pono’ole, mana’ole
As you refuse to be CIVIL and continue use of racist slurs, you will not be allowed to comment further. Your language is despicable!
Regarding Captain Cook, The Kumulipo documents Kanaka considered him to be a god:
“It is not surprising that during the days that followed the successful attack against a god who had proved fallible to weapons, the old warrior advise putting to rout the whole expedition, while the younger chief, who had acted as political head during the absence of his superior, remained friendly. Th matter-of-fact way in which the multitude regarded the death of a god has curious confirmation in [Captain James] King’s statement that after Cook’s death the people inquired anxiously of King when “the Orono” would come again.” [p24]
The Kumulipo documents the political infighting:
“By 1874 the line of the Kamehameha family was extinct. Prince David Kalakaua became king by a stormy election and ruled until his death in 1891. He was succeeded by his sister Lydia, the Queen Lili’uokalani, who was the last representative of the Hawaiian monarchy before the overthrow and the setting-up of a provisional government in 1893, followed in 1898 by annexation of the islands to the United States as the Territory of Hawai’i. The election of Kalakaua had not been without bitter opposition.” [p29]
History shows that selecting leaders based on bloodline does not lead to the Best & Brightest in governance.
The Kumulipo documents haole means stranger; you apply this as a racist slur:
505. Hanau ke Po’ohaole, he haole kela
505 [translation]. Born were the fair-haired, they were strangers.
506. Hanua ke Po’omahakea, he keakea ka ‘ili.
506 [translation]. Born were the blonds, their skin was white.
You derogatorily call me a “stranger.” I live here. I’m an American, as are you. You have no right to insult me or others. And your slander causes us not to support the current political agenda of the Kanaka.
don’t care what you support or who you are, you are still not kanaka, still [H-word], the term [H-word] is not a racial slur, you and the [DELETED] make it so, as for Cook he brought sickness and disease to these shores, that is his legacy, one that you fail to know or understand, Cook arrived when to these shores? You are so clue less. don’t care that you are an american, you are still [H-word] and still misrepresenting us, take a ride over to bishop museum and do your research since you have not done enough and all you are doing is self promoting your self. hupo
Never claimed to be Kanaka, which is Polynesian. I am American — a mix of people from around the world, who originated in Africa. Polynesians originated in Africa. You divide people, just as Kamehameha divided people in the islands by killing those who did not agree with him.
You now BLAME Captain Cook for bringing disease: “Cook he brought sickness and disease to these shores, that is his legacy …” You don’t know that. You weren’t here on January 18, 1778 when Cook spotted O’ahu or January 20, 1778 when he arrived on Kaua’i. The Kanaka did not have such a calendar. Your ancestors do not know what year he arrived. Missionaries taught Kanaka to read, write and use the Gregorian calendar.
Apparently, you blame the Chinese for the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Why don’t you steal one of their boats and attempt to kill Chinese president Xi Jinping? You blame everyone! Blame the Chinese!
However, arguendo, let’s agree Captain Cook introduced disease to the islands. Why then did murderous Kamehameha defy his king, partner with disease-carrying foreigners, and launch 30-years of war against Polynesian inhabitants in the Sandwich islands? Apparently he was INCOMPETENT as a warrior and king. He murdered and sickened the Kanaka.
Why then didn’t greedy Kamehameha rally the island Polynesians to keep foreigners out? Again, corrupt or incompetent or both?
Why then didn’t arrogant Kamehameha unite the island Polynesians to reject foreign goods, education, clothing, culture, religion, commerce and interaction? Would you say corrupt or incompetent or both?
It’s all about choices, brother! Kanaka kings and queens chose to be part of the world. They wanted perks and amazing technologies from the world. They wanted the $$$$, the diamonds, gold and silver from the world. They wanted to travel the world, to send their keiki to foreign universities, to build palaces and light up the night with electric lamps, and raise their keiki in the ways of foreign culture.
These decisions and actions brought goodies — as well as disease to the islands. Kanaka kings and queens FREELY made these choices. And, Kanaka benefited — and suffered — the decisions and choices by the monarchy.
BLAMING others; racially and derogatorily slurring, demeaning, and disparaging others — just shows the world YOUR poor-quality moral character. Such behavior is not regal. Such character demonstrates Kanaka cannot, should not, lead in this world today. You are too immature to lead others. Your anger, hatred, and blaming of others is what LOSERS do. Great People move forward! You remain trapped in the past.
Kanaka is who we are, you have no idea what it means to be Polynesian, don’t care you are an American. I don’t divide, you refuse to be enlightened by the real truth, you hide behind a key board and spit out what you think is the truth, once again you fail to do all the research, and you are still acting just like the rest of the na haole.
It is documented, Cook and his people introduced the common cold, flu, syphilis, and gonorrhea to our ancestors. Once again you fail to do all the research, and you are still acting just like the rest of the na haole.
Missionaries taught a lot more then what you are saying, not all of it was pono, once again you fail to do all the research, and you are still acting just like the rest of the na haole.
Why would you say anything about the na pake and sars? Must be because you are still acting just like the rest of the na haole.
You keep asking about Kamehameha, once again you fail to do all the research, and you are still acting just like the rest of the na haole.
I am not your brother. We are not ohana.
You have no idea what our ali’i were like or thinking, once again you fail to do all the research, and you are still acting just like the rest of the na haole.
haole is NOT a racial slur, you and other make it so, I use my native language you cannot deny me that, you are still acting just like the rest of the na haole.
I don’t need to be regal when dealing with an arrogant ignorant haole like you.
Reminding you that you are haole is not racial, is not derogatory, is not demeaning, is not disparaging. You are haole and there is nothing you can do to change that. Kanaka do not need to lead in this world, Hawai’i is for na kanaka. I don’t need to lead anyone; I did not ask to lead others. I am not trapped in the past, I know our past, you fail to understand us, you are the one that does not belong here.
OK, brother. You just made this hilarious !!! Let’s have fun. I’ll take what you say and respond, point-by-point:
1. Kanaka is who we are. Your ancestors are Polynesians from many places who intermarried with many different cultures. Tall, short, skinny, extremely fat, dark-skinned, light-skinned, nappy hair, straight or curly hair, Asian, African, European, Pacific Islander … many other characteristics. It’s not clear who you are.
2. You have no idea what it means to be Polynesian. Why would I? I’m not Polynesian.
3. Don’t care you are an American. No, you don’t. You’re disrespectful and rude.
4. I don’t divide. Of course, you do. You are Kanaka, Polynesian — not American.
5. You refuse to be enlightened by the real truth. That’s what “propagandists” and Jehovah Witness say.
6. You hide behind a key board and spit out what you think is the truth. Not hiding. Not spitting.
7. Once again you fail to do all the research. That’s what “propagandists” and Jehovah Witness say.
8. You are still acting just like the rest of the na haole. Racist and discriminatory slander.
9. Cook and his people introduced the common cold, flu, syphilis, and gonorrhea to our ancestors. Your ancestors invited them and partnered with them FREELY. Their choice. Nothing to do with me.
10. Once again you fail to do all the research. That’s what “propagandists” and Jehovah Witness say.
11. You are still acting just like the rest of the na haole. Racist and discriminatory slander.
12. Missionaries taught a lot more then what you are saying, not all of it was pono. Your ancestors invited them and partnered with them FREELY. Their choice. Nothing to do with me.
13. Once again you fail to do all the research. That’s what “propagandists” and Jehovah Witness say.
14. You are still acting just like the rest of the na haole. Racist and discriminatory slander.
15. Why would you say anything about the na pake and sars? Because you said “Cook and his people introduced the common cold, flu, syphilis, and gonorrhea to our ancestors.”
16. Must be because you are still acting just like the rest of the na haole. Racist and discriminatory slander.
17. You keep asking about Kamehameha. Not asking. Kamehameha murdered Polynesians and invited foreigners to the islands. He partnered with the foreigners.
18. Once again you fail to do all the research. That’s what “propagandists” and Jehovah Witness say.
19. You are still acting just like the rest of the na haole. Racist and discriminatory slander.
20. I am not your brother. Proof, I said you divide.
21. We are not ohana. Proof, I said you divide.
22. You have no idea what our ali’i were like or thinking. I don’t need to know their thoughts. I view their decisions and actions.
23. Once again you fail to do all the research. That’s what “propagandists” and Jehovah Witness say.
24. You are still acting just like the rest of the na haole. Racist and discriminatory slander.
25. “haole” is NOT a racial slur, you and other make it so. You use it to offend me. I’m not a stranger. Calling me this term repeatedly is meant in a derogatory manner. Therefore, it is a racist slur — as you’re Polynesian and I am not.
26. I use my native language you cannot deny me that. You are writing in MY native language and I can DENY you using that pejorative term on my blog.
27. You are still acting just like the rest of the na haole. Racist and discriminatory slander.
28. I don’t need to be regal when dealing with an arrogant ignorant haole like you. You do not need to be writing on this blog. I have been patient with you. You choose not to be civil. Kanaka live aloha; you do not live aloha; therefore, you are not kanaka.
29. Reminding you that you are haole is not racial, is not derogatory, is not demeaning, is not disparaging. You are using the term in a racist, derogatory, demeaning and disparaging way in MY language. You are not writing in your language.
30. You are haole and there is nothing you can do to change that. “haole” means stranger in Hawaiian. I’m not a stranger. Thus, you are using the term in a derogatory and insulting manner.
31. Hawai’i is for na kanaka. Sanford Dole and supporters claimed otherwise. Your ancestors invited them and partnered with them FREELY. Their choice. Nothing to do with me.
32. I don’t need to lead anyone. The Kanaka aren’t leaders.
33. I did not ask to lead others. The Kanaka aren’t leaders.
34. I am not trapped in the past. You claim Hawai’i is for na kanaka. That’s the past.
35. I know our past. Great! Now tell me about YOUR future and that of your keiki. They’re not keeping up.
36. You fail to understand us. I have no kuleana to understand you. I’m an American, part of a huge ‘ohana. We are moving forward together. Sadly, you FREELY choose not to keep up. Aloha means both hello and good-bye. Sadly, we say good-bye to the Kanaka.
37. You are the one that does not belong here. You’ll have to tell that to the U.S. military and government. Good-luck!
This conversation has reached its conclusion. You gave your opinion and position. I responded. Thank you for participating in this discussion.
As I said, this conversation is pau. Gave you multiple opportunities to have a civil discussion. I will not permit you to come here and write foul, harassing and mean comments. You bring dishonor to the honorable Kanaka.
[H-word] explain this, https://kawaiola.news/moolelo/i-ka-makua-o-ka-lahui-hawaii/
First, I do not have to “explain” anything. Wasn’t there. I had nothing to do with the INTERNAL political fighting in Hawai’i. Second, the article says, “An agreement between President Cleveland and Queen Liliʻuokalani to restore her to power had fallen apart when the United States failed to follow through.”
President Cleveland and the USA had no obligation or authority to decide WHO should be in power in Hawai’i. This dispute occurred between The People living in Hawai’i. King Kalakaua signed the 1887 constitution. Queen Lili attempted to overturn this political arrangement. Some local people considered the act to be one of treason.
Right? Wrong? This dispute was ISLAND politics. The USA had an interest in protecting their rights to Pearl Harbor and any American citizens living or visiting in the islands. Not their job to decide the outcome of an internal political squabble.
If the Kanaka wanted Lydia to be returned to the throne, it was the kuleana of the Kanaka to make this happen. Your ancestors did not rise up. Your ancestors allowed this to happen. King Kamehameha I established the rule — Might Makes Right!
His warriors murdered, shot and killed Polynesians, and turned British cannons on Polynesians. This is how Kamehameha created HIS kingdom. Right or wrong, he EARNED his kingdom. The House of Kalakaua did nothing to EARN a kingdom. David surrendered. Lydia surrendered. They demonstrated no courage when facing resistance. They lost the kingdom.
The People offered the House of Kalakaua a compromise — a ceremonial role as king and queen. Lydia Liliʻu Loloku Walania Kamakaʻeha turned it down. The USA had no authority to decide the political outcome.
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As I said, this conversation is pau. Gave you multiple opportunities to have a civil discussion. I will not permit you to come here and write foul, harassing and mean comments. You bring dishonor to the honorable Kanaka.
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